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Fairmont Butte Motorsports Park
18-08-2009 08:31 AM
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Fairmont Butte Motorsports Park: This guy is blowing smoke
During various meetings Mr. Malloy has been asked the question if his race track is going to be open to the local public. Such as is the restaurant going to be open to the locals (public), the hotel he plans to build, is it open to the public and other access questions.

It was indicated that this race track is a private enterprise and the public (locals) will not participate in the use of it.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

If so why do we have to put up with the noise, increased traffic, and hyped up race fans practicing in our fields (don't tell me this woun't happen I have been here to long to not believe it)

What is this we hear that Mr. Malloy plans to place his residence at the top of the bluff overlooking his atrocity.

If you are going to interfere with my life style Mr. Malloy and flip the finger at the public because you "have a dream" and it don't include anybody else, think again.
you are going to affect everybody in Antelope Acres, Fairmont, and Nenach you better consider including them in your plans.
07-02-2010 11:26 AM
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RE: Fairmont Butte Motorsports Park
Pee Wee
Kind Sir: Although I agree with you on most of your points>

On a slow Day Los Angeles County Raceway Brought in 900 to 1200 people.
LACR was built on the site of a gravel pit.
Mr. Longjohn worked on and with the community.
the track was always clean and well maintained.
It was open to the public.
Many films and other entertainment projects happened at LACR
It would take me half of the day to list them all.

Sir I have lived in this Valley for many years, and have seen many changes that I DO NOT LIKE.
I am a RACER and a RACE FAN, And You have Insulted a Great many people with your " HYPED UP RACE FANS " remark.
As always the many have to pay for the ACTIONS of a few.

Yes I do agree with the last part of your post, He had better include the people in those communities, Or He Can FORGET IT.
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08-02-2010 04:25 AM
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Fairmont Butte Motorsports Park: library meeting
Recently there was a meeting relating to the raceway at the library. There was so many people at the meeting that the fire dept had some people removed because it was so crowded almost all of the people spoke against the project. At 3:00pm the meeting was terminated and there was 50 people left to speak that could not. The meeting was moved to Los Angles at a future date.

It is funny that Mr. Malloy has made a sizable contribution to the Supervisor.
08-02-2010 10:37 AM
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RE: Fairmont Butte Motorsports Park
I generally agree with Pee-Wee but I want to add a little something to his thoughts.

In my blog article "It's not about the condor stupid" I wrote "The Fairmont Butte Motorsports Park is one of the few developments that I actually wrote to Regional Planning to oppose." Link here... http://tj.jtusz.com/blog/ While I wouldn't voluntarily turn a neighbor in to regional planning without cause, in this case I replied to a public "request for comment".

The symptom and diagnosis of the problem is the lack of civilization in our neck of the woods. The remedy is not necessarily to stop a neighbor from doing what he wants on his land.

We need restaruants and the comforts of civilization. Tejon/Centennial is moving at a glacier's pace. Fairmont Butte is a tempting target but let's not forget, whether or not it is built we will be no closer or further from our goal.
08-02-2010 11:44 AM
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Fairmont Butte Motorsports Park: makeyour own decision
I found this flier at a site and figure the public can make up their own mind
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Proposed New Road Course in Southern California Needs Your Help!

by Jeff Naeyaert

Some of you SoCal road racers out there might have heard about the proposed Fairmont Butte Motorsports Park that Thomas Malloy wants to build on his land about 20 miles northwest of Lancaster. "This 3.6 mile Alan Wilson-designed race track will include a 30,000 square foot clubhouse, 45,000 square feet of garage facilities and overnight accommodations and other amenities, helping to make it a world-class racing facility." Unfortunately, he's getting some opposition from a few environmentalist weenies who are worried about noise at the nearby Antelope Valley Poppy Reserve. To quote Milt Stark, president of the Poppy Reserve/Mojave Desert Interpretive Association, "Visitors who come to see the poppies come out there to have peace and quiet." When asked about the proposed racetrack, a recent visitor to the reserve added, "I think it would be a little weird."

Hopefully they'll come to a happy middleground. Perhaps the environmentalists haven't considered how many wives and girlfriends bored of sitting at the track all day would to jump at the opportunity to picnic in groves of blooming wildflowers ...quietly of course.

What can you do? If you're interested in helping Tom bring another track to Southern California check out his letter on the following page for all the info, situation as it stands now and where to voice your opinion. All letters of support need to be RECEIVED by the county planning office by August 19th, so don't sit on this!
08-02-2010 12:05 PM
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Fairmont Butte Motorsports Park: Valley Press Feb 7 2010
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By ahoffmanCaupress.com
Valley Press Staff Writer
Sunday Feb. 7 2010

LANCASTER - The range of emotions at Saturday's Los Angeles Regional Planning Board public hearing on the proposed Fairmont Butte Motorsports Park spanned from anger and frustration to heartfelt and sentimental.

Approximately 200 people braved the rain Saturday to attend the meeting at the Lancaster Regional Library.
The room was filled to capacity about 15 minutes before the meeting started, which left many people to stand in the back of the room and in a library hallway.
People came from every corner of the Antelope Valley and across Southern California to show their support for or disapproval of the raceway.

The area where Malloy Family Partners wants to build the raceway is a 322-acre parcel of land between avenues D and E and between 150th and 155th streets west, the site of a defunct gravelmining operation near Fairmont Butte.

It is just northwest of the Antelope Valley California Poppy Reserve, which is the focal point of opponents' worries.
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The motorsports park would be about 'one mile away from the
poppy reserve and two miles from the park's nearest foot path, officials said.
Minutes into the meeting, former Lancaster mayor Barbara Little voiced her concerns about the overcrowded room and accused the planning board of purposefully holding the meeting in a room that couldn't accommodate everyone. She requested the meeting be moved to larger venue and rescheduled for a later date.

Wayne Rew, chairman of the planning board, said the meeting would continue, especially because many had traveled long distances to attend.
Several firefighters arrived a short time later to determine whether the room was overcrowded.

Representatives from Malloy Family Partners asked their supporters to leave voluntarily so the meeting would not be postponed. About 60 people exited and the meeting commenced.

R.J. Comer, a lawyer and representative for Malloy Family Partners, addressed the planners on the effect of the raceway's proximity to the poppy reserve and sought to dispel what he said were false claims.

Comer said the raceway would not be visible from the poppy reserve and sound tests showed the noise from the track would be "barely or rarely audible at the reserve." He said the operators would restrict four-wheel muffled vehicles from the site during the peak poppy season during the four weeks around April.


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According to Comer, wildlife in the area would not be impacted and the rural atmosphere of the area would not be damaged because the track would be a rural, not urban, recreation area. Comer assured the audience there would be no night racing, and a helistop would be used primarily for emergencies and during construction.

Comer said Malloy Family Partners was setting aside 100 acres of open space for preservation near the track.

About a dozen people spoke in support of the raceway, including race enthusiasts and those who hoped the project would bring much needed jobs to the Valley. Many testified that Tom Malloy, owner of Malloy Family Partners, had a reputation for being "respectable."

Gilbert Hakim, who traveled from Beverly Hills to attend the meeting, said he supported construction of the raceway because, as a physician and reconstructive surgeon, he has seen youngsters disfigured or worse from illegal street racing accidents.

"The more of these facilities we have, the more we can get these teenager drivers off the streets to make it safer for all of us," he said.

Hakim admitted he understands the pros and cons of the situation, but with racing-related fatalities on the rise, he believed the raceway would be a safe environment for youngsters who want to race.


"What's more important - to save lives or a few fields?" Hakim said. "In this, the advantages would be much greater than the disadvantages."

Margaret Rhyne, vice president of the Poppy Reserve/Mojave Desert Interpretive Association, spoke on behalf of the Antelope Valley Sierra Club and said she opposes the raceway.
Rhyne said the raceway posed a significant threat to the rural quality of the area and disputed claims the track would not damage wildlife.

"The greatest threat from this raceway is the noise," Rhyne said. "The peace and tranquility our visitors enjoy will be a thing of the past."

Rhyne cited an environmental impact report that said the project would be "audible over a long distance and may be unwanted by some."

According to Rhyne, a survey said 85% of poppy reserve visitors would not go to the reserve as often if the raceway was built, and 50% said they would never visit again. She said each year the reserve draws visitors from all over the world who spend an average of $57 at businesses across the Valley.

Rhyne also worried the raceway would open a floodgate of developement in the area, further threatening the reserve.

RACEWAY: Developers noise would be `barely audible'

About 20 people addressed council on their concerns about raceway.
Some feared noise and traffic would disturb nearby reside while others worried sound . fumes from the track would destroy the beauty of the reserve.

Lancaster residents Susan ; John Martin and docents at reserve said the raceway has potential to damage future poppy blooms.

"If there is anything we ha learned, it's that the poppies very fragile," Susan Martin said.' many things impact them that are not aware of."

Rosamond resident Judy Oloughlin said she didn't understand w; the raceway needed to be built near to the reserve.

"There are other places it could (be built). I know the noise w cause a problem," she said.

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08-02-2010 07:17 PM
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Fairmont Butte Motorsports Park: March 24, 2010 Regional Planning Com Public Hearing
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March 24, 2010 Regional Planning Commission Public Hearing at Temple Street; this is the Poppy Reserve vs. Racetrack hearing. Be there! For more information call (661) 965-9121


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The Poppies on North side of Poppy Reserve

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Munz Ranch Road on South side of road to Poppy Reserve

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Fairmont Butte Motorsports Park: This an open letter to the town councils:
This an open letter to the town councils:

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23-02-2010 10:11 AM
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RE: Fairmont Butte Motorsports Park: This an open letter to the town councils:
This smacks of NINBY. NINBY is a term I coined on my blog http://tj.jtusz.com/blog It stands for "NOT IN NEIGHBOR'S BACK YARD".

I have a similar situation. My neighbor is the department of water and power's (DWP) Los Angeles aqueduct. Were it not for this menace I would have finished my construction project half a year ago. Because of my neighbor and all of the extra costs caused by the pipeline I had to halt construction half way through the project because I ran out of money. Have the DWP pay for all of the damages their pipeline caused on my land? Not a chance!

Because a lot borders the poppy reserve means that you can't really build anything on it without an enormous amount of legal and political and public hassles. What de-facto is happening here is the boundaries of the park are not where the map says they are. They are where the legal and social system extends their domain to be. Private property be that as it may. Tough luck. Suck it up Fairmont Butte! At least with eminent domain you are compensated financially for your loses. This is eminent domain and you get nothing in return.
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Fairmont Butte Motorsports Park: reschedule meeting to Aug 18 2010
Next Fairmont Butte meeting

Continuance date is August 18, 2010. For the water issue
The June 9 Meeting notes indicated the Planning Staff requested Sept 29 as the next meeting date, the date was changed to Aug. 18 2010

LA County has concern over Malloy's water usage. LA County has stopped all requests for new water usage until the County's water adjudication suit is agreeded upon by all parties.
19-06-2010 10:04 AM
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