(31-03-2009 08:28 PM)AVresident Wrote:  What people should care about is that the nursery drains most of the tax dollars. Who actually buys from them? From the financial reports their sales are low. I, as a taxpayer, am outraged that funds are wasted on this nursery. There are many other good works they could be doing if they weren't appeasing the desires of a bunch of people who probably never buy anything from the nursery anyway. Latest financial report has the nursery in the hole $60,000. Not a good way to spend money. Pull some weeds or restore some habitat, sheesh, even save some Joshua trees. It seems like they throw good money after bad every year. Time to rethink this.

A district attorney's investigation? No, ****** of the ************** was an associate director for a time before she became so disruptive they had to vote her off the board. She has alleged violations of all sorts for the past few years. No findings, just complaints from her. Seems she got her back up after they gave her the boot. I've followed this board for awhile and see their frustration with everything involving the district operations being questioned while the public completely ignores the problems at the nursery. Curious to say the least.

People should be worried about their tax dollars wasted at that nursery. That's got me wondering. Who is behind keeping that nursery open? I've been there and it's not much to write home about.

(31-03-2009 10:22 PM)Guest Wrote:  Well I think you need a lesson in history. To make it short the nursery is the reason that the RCD is getting public tax payers money, because of the nursery. It was established to give a service to farmers and ranchers and the county agreeded to give the RCD money to support the service, not the money grubbing office help working a pet project (sucking money from the budget). If the nursery goes your fat paycheck vaporizes because the money was authorized in 1972 for the nursery and only the nursery.

The reason the board is being questioned is because the financials don't add up and the refusal of the board to be up front with the accounting of the money. Large amounts have been given out without a board vote ($25,000 to Catalina RCD). Many checks are not listed on the meeting minutes and the office has 3 people to do the work of 1 part time previous employee. Most of the office time is spent trying to get free money for other people and sucking a fee for doing it, being paid for by the money you feel is yours to waste.

(01-04-2009 12:22 AM)Guest Wrote:  We've all seen the District Attorney's six page letter -- it's even posted on the web -- explaining the investigation, the violations, the findings. I thought that was why the board spends 1000s every month to have an attorney around.

Denying the DA's investigation and findings could indicate ignorance, stupidity, a lobotomy, or just a lie. I suspect a lobotomy or a lie.

The writer's failure to understand the value of the Nursery or removal of invasive species, now that's just ignorance and stupidity.

And talking about stupidity, who might know the details that are mentioned? Doesn't the writer think people would recognize the say-it's-a-lie, change-the-subject, personal-attack tactics? The civilized world doesn't engage in that juvenile behavior, so it's a giveaway.

We all know who really "got her back up" in that situation -- and often still does. In psychology it is called [i]projection, the juvenile behavior of accusing one's opponent of one's own faults.

This writer really has no business talking about the Nursery, or the woman they always attack, and certainly not the nonprofit that has nothing to do with the AVRCD. The people who have supported the nursery and publicized the board's problems have more class, integrity and good works in any one of their pinky nails than the writer of that post will ever be able to comprehend. They are patriots and heroes and the best of Mankind, while people like the writer just look selfish, petty, juvenile, and stupid.

Sometimes in the news or the arts we see the worst kind of public officials, people who abuse their power by stealing public property and public funds, who lie, and who menace citizens. I don't know if we have any of that ilk slurping up slop from the RCD tax-dollar trough, but when public officials attack people personally just because they ask questions about their actions IN PUBLIC OFFICE, then it makes people think they might be of that ilk.

And lastly, if you're such an "outraged" taxpayer, make sure you pay taxes on all that slop.

Glossary for this posting:
LOBOTOMY the removal of a lobe of the brain that results
in a loss of memory or emotional capacity
ILK sort, kind, related
PETTY superficial, without thoughtfulness or passion
DA an officer of the court whose documents are
public and easily obtained upon request
JUVENILE childish, immature

(31-03-2009 08:28 PM)AVresident Wrote:  What people should care about is that the nursery drains most of the tax dollars. Who actually buys from them? From the financial reports their sales are low. I, as a taxpayer, am outraged that funds are wasted on this nursery. There are many other good works they could be doing if they weren't appeasing the desires of a bunch of people who probably never buy anything from the nursery anyway. Latest financial report has the nursery in the hole $60,000. Not a good way to spend money. Pull some weeds or restore some habitat, sheesh, even save some Joshua trees. It seems like they throw good money after bad every year. Time to rethink this.

A district attorney's investigation? No, ******* of the **********was an associate director for a time before she became so disruptive they had to vote her off the board. She has alleged violations of all sorts for the past few years. No findings, just complaints from her. Seems she got her back up after they gave her the boot. I've followed this board for awhile and see their frustration with everything involving the district operations being questioned while the public completely ignores the problems at the nursery. Curious to say the least.

People should be worried about their tax dollars wasted at that nursery. That's got me wondering. Who is behind keeping that nursery open? I've been there and it's not much to write home about.